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“You don’t discontinue a system because of potential misuse, you build solutions to the misuse.”okay. everyone is spazzing out because LGBT was left off of a directory nomination form (that is probably still being ironed out). and this quote just kind of ruins the whole argument. the reasoning that people might abuse this (and trust me, they WILL abuse it) is perfectly valid. and maybe tumblr just hasn’t found the right solution yet. not everything is an attack on the LGBT community, calm down.
and let me warn you, when you make requests like that- you don’t really know what you’re asking for. i say this because if you did know what you were asking for, you’d offer an actual solution. “build solutions to the misuse” comes dangerously close to humans/arbitrary people monitoring and/or approving YOUR content.
how do you really expect them to monitor fake nominations (e.g. “i’m submitting my straight friend to the gay category lololz~11”) from the real ones? email people to ask about their orientation? have a single human make a judgement call that may or may not be accurate? (oh my god, you guys would FREAK OUT all over again if that happened)
so that said, sit and think for a minute about what problems really could come of this at the moment. and then relax. maybe if you’re so inclined, offer a solution.
Hey Nik,
Thanks for responding to my post. I do agree that some systems are very difficult to prevent abuse, but I could simply do the same with other categories. I could categorize a overweight person into the “fitness” category, or put someone in the “animal” category. Though I know “gay” is a term that gets used as an insult, the LGBT rights movement is trying to stop this thinking. Tumblr using that as an excuse makes it seem like they’re endorsing the fact that “gay” is an insult.
I didn’t state any solutions because I wanted to focus the message on the idea that the LGBT community is being excluded, rather than focusing on a specific solution. I don’t know what the best solution is. But I can definitely think of a few. Tumblr could add a feature to remove your own nominations. If I don’t want to be in a category, I should have the ability to control that, regardless if it’s something that offends me or not. I may post a few times about X, but I may not want categorized as X. What if a bunch of creepy old guys nominated me into the “cute” directory?
That could be something that offends me. Or simply a setting saying you don’t want to receive nominations.
The process already has a notice saying that if you nominate someone into a category where they’re not, then your account may be suspended.
How should the LGBT directory be different from any others?
I also agree with your quote “not everything is an attack on the LGBT community, calm down.” I do admit that the post I made was a bit strong-worded, but helped to get the message out. But I think we can agree that the who want to be listed in the directory (who are primarily LGBT-related) were excluded from a feature. Perhaps you don’t want to be in the directory, but some of us do. Put yourself in our shoes if you’re not. My blog equalitopia can’t be listed properly in the directory, and I feel offended because the only reason it can’t is because it’s LGBT-related. I’d say that’s unfair.
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I don’t know what to think of this. =\Tumblr excludes the ‘Gay & Lesbian’ category from Directory recommendations
When I (@danlev) asked Marco Arment, Tumblr’s lead developer, about this issue, he responded:
A handful [of categories] don’t support [recommendations] because of potential social implications. Like creepy guys nominating women they like as “Erotica”.
When I told him that Tumblr is leaving out LGBT people, he replied:
I didn’t want immature people to nominate their non-LGBTQ friends/enemies into it. Didn’t want to cheapen/ruin the category.
But Tumblr already has a notice in place to prevent this. Upon nomination of a blog, you must check a box to agree that the blog “is about [category], and I understand that if it blatantly isn’t, my account may be suspended.” If this notice is in place for all categories, why does it not suffice for the Gay & Lesbian category?
You don’t discontinue a system because of potential misuse, you build solutions to the misuse.
Tumblr is discriminating against LGBT people: Not only are the Gay & Lesbian community excluded from a feature, but Tumblr is preemptively classifying the ‘LGBTQ’ label as an attack.
Only 5 categories are excluded: Erotica, Gay & Lesbian, Germany, Sexuality, Staff. Obviously, Sexuality and Erotica could have legal issues, especially with nominating a 13 year-old girl. The Staff category is obviously doesn’t need that functionality.
What you can do: Reblog, tweet about it, and voice your opinion to Tumblr’s Community Ambassador: Marc LaFountain (support@tumblr.com).
I’m confused.
Whoever the OP is has some serious issues. (And let’s make it clear that I have nothing against gay people) But the staff’s decision not to have the recommendation feature seems completely reasonable. Get off your high horse and stop trying to make it seem like the staff hates gays. WTF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS
Thank you for telling me I have serious issues. I am the OP. Let me just reiterate what I said: “You don’t discontinue a system because of potential misuse, you build solutions to the misuse.” Sure they have a valid point that people can misuse it, but they specifically warn people that if they put someone in a category that they do not belong, their account could be suspended.
Why should the LGBT directory be restricted from a feature just because of potential vandalism. Perhaps you don’t want to be listed in the directory, but some of us do. And why should we be denied a fair chance to use this feature like any other people on Tumblr do.