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RE: nikography’s response to my post about Tumblr’s exclusion of the LGBT directory

nikography:

“You don’t discontinue a system because of potential misuse, you build solutions to the misuse.”

equalitopia

okay. everyone is spazzing out because LGBT was left off of a directory nomination form (that is probably still being ironed out). and this quote just kind of ruins the whole argument. the reasoning that people might abuse this (and trust me, they WILL abuse it) is perfectly valid. and maybe tumblr just hasn’t found the right solution yet. not everything is an attack on the LGBT community, calm down.

and let me warn you, when you make requests like that- you don’t really know what you’re asking for. i say this because if you did know what you were asking for, you’d offer an actual solution. “build solutions to the misuse” comes dangerously close to humans/arbitrary people monitoring and/or approving YOUR content.

how do you really expect them to monitor fake nominations (e.g. “i’m submitting my straight friend to the gay category lololz~11”) from the real ones? email people to ask about their orientation? have a single human make a judgement call that may or may not be accurate? (oh my god, you guys would FREAK OUT all over again if that happened)

so that said, sit and think for a minute about what problems really could come of this at the moment. and then relax. maybe if you’re so inclined, offer a solution.

Hey Nik,

Thanks for responding to my post. I do agree that some systems are very difficult to prevent abuse, but I could simply do the same with other categories. I could categorize a overweight person into the “fitness” category, or put someone in the “animal” category. Though I know “gay” is a term that gets used as an insult, the LGBT rights movement is trying to stop this thinking. Tumblr using that as an excuse makes it seem like they’re endorsing the fact that “gay” is an insult.

I didn’t state any solutions because I wanted to focus the message on the idea that the LGBT community is being excluded, rather than focusing on a specific solution. I don’t know what the best solution is. But I can definitely think of a few. Tumblr could add a feature to remove your own nominations. If I don’t want to be in a category, I should have the ability to control that, regardless if it’s something that offends me or not. I may post a few times about X, but I may not want categorized as X. What if a bunch of creepy old guys nominated me into the “cute” directory? 

That could be something that offends me. Or simply a setting saying you don’t want to receive nominations.

The process already has a notice saying that if you nominate someone into a category where they’re not, then your account may be suspended.

How should the LGBT directory be different from any others?

I also agree with your quote “not everything is an attack on the LGBT community, calm down.” I do admit that the post I made was a bit strong-worded, but helped to get the message out. But I think we can agree that the who want to be listed in the directory (who are primarily LGBT-related) were excluded from a feature. Perhaps you don’t want to be in the directory, but some of us do. Put yourself in our shoes if you’re not. My blog equalitopia can’t be listed properly in the directory, and I feel offended because the only reason it can’t is because it’s LGBT-related. I’d say that’s unfair.

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    Hey Nik, Thanks for responding to my post. I do agree that some systems are very difficult to prevent abuse, but I could...
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    I can tell you now that probably 50%+ of the nominations would be people that aren’t LGBT. Welcome to the internet -...
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    nik’s response
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    If the recommendations are purely a tally of how many people recommended a tumblr in a 1-week period, they’re pretty...
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    - equalitopia okay. everyone...form (that is probably still being ironed out). and this...
  15. morningstar reblogged this from falconieri and added:
    Was sind die probleme mit einschließlich Deutschland!?!?
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    lol, the way he explains it makes sense. A straight guy nominating his other straight buddy as a joke. They’re not...
  17. gescapes reblogged this from dan-ers and added:
    lmfao what the fuck! 98% of tumblr is gay, why would they do that! fail.
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    no entiendoooooo
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    I suggest that one should only be allowed to nominate oneself into these categories (except staff)
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    If I can blog about being straight then anyone can blog about their orientation! No matter what they are. Just because...
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    Hurm. Honestly, I cannot decide where I stand on this. Honestly, because looking at the other categories, I don’t care...
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    It’s certainly strange that tumblr would bother to create a directory for LGBTQ only to then exclude it.
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    I’m confused, too. Are they announcing plans to get rid of the category? Because I see it there right now, but this post...
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    Why Tumblr? You use to be my best friend the only thing I can actually be open with fully, but now I am not so sure :/
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    thatguychad:equalitopia:...Tumblr excludes the ‘Gay & Lesbian’ category from Directory...
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    I wonder if tumblr knows as much about their LGBT demographic as they should, or that their demo is LGBT heavy in the...
  43. junkwhore reblogged this from emetophobia and added:
    yeah exactly lol, i totally agree with that. idk all sites have that kinda problem, and just excluding aint gonna take...
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    because i bet some kid’s gonna do nothing but talk about rammstein and be all MY BLOG TOTALLY QUALIFIES FOR GERMANY....
  45. junkwhore reblogged this from emetophobia and added:
    honestly i think people are being pretty stupid about this. i’m not sure how i feel about it - i’ve never used the...
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    come on, tumblr. Can we be older than 10/Michael Scott and understand that LGBTQ is NOT an insult?
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    It took me, seriously, ten minutes to figure out what “brove” meant....am not very...
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    This is stupid. I think the category is excluded because it’s too broad…Not because it’s a personal attack on gay...
  55. ayatollahtamus reblogged this from bifreshman and added:
    THE POINT THAT EVERYONE IS MISSING is that there is no “Straight” or “Asexual” category either. Why do ‘we’ need to be...
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    I understand that Tumblr is looking out for all of our best interests and although it doesn’t have a way to recommend...
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    what if gays use their new found spotlight to solicit gay sex with me?
  72. satinsheets reblogged this from ob-la-di-ob-la-da and added:
    They are all there now :/
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    know is why is Germany a no-no topic? That’s just… mind boggling. This, I feel, is a more pressing matter than any issue...
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    Please re-word that statement better. In short: Tumblr is allegedly (I can’t say because I’m barred from recommending...
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    I’m confused, too. I’m also confused as to why “Germany” is apparently being excluded. Do they think all Germans are...
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    Fix this, Tumblr. now.
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    You’re welcome. And I’m sorry, I forgot that not wanting to “cheapen” a part of a site was discrimination and that the...
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    Yet more bullshit from people who try to rationalize their discrimination.
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    OH! I GET IT! You can recommend people for certain categories of the directory. However, you can’t recommend people for...
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    lol Germany? Oh.
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    I don’t know what you’re on about, Dan, but I’m pretty sure the recommend button is there. You know recommendations only...
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    Thank you for telling me I have serious issues. I am the OP. Let me just reiterate what I said: “You don’t discontinue a...
  103. emilynd reblogged this from fuckyeahlgbt and added:
    Whoever the OP is has some serious issues. (And let’s make it clear that I have nothing against gay people) But the...
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    this is bullshit!!!
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    Oh shut the fuck up. The Queer community takes over tumblr. Look around you, bitches.
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    you guys do realize this is tumblr, right you know tumblr
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    I don’t know what to think of this. =\
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    Germany? Germany? (I am also not ok with this.) I’m not ok with the Gays & Lesbians things, the Germany thing just...
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    I am not ok with this.
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    This. Just showed up on...dash. BRB Dying.
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    Strange all around.
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    germany is excluded?
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    well i find this extremely bun then. shame on you tumblhater.
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    WTF, tumblr? You’re one of the gayest places I know on the internet. Not cool.
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    Spread the word!
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